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The RBH is currently going through an exercise to redevelop the hospital to make sure that it is fit for purpose. This includes redeveloping the current hospital site, or moving to a new site.

Given that RBC have not exactly been enthusiastic about helping the RBC at their current location (surrounding it in pay and display roads and refusing permission for new car parks), I see that they do not want to see it move - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60375568

Personally, I think moving the RBH to a larger site on the edge of town is probably the best option for the hospital. The majority of patients require motorised transport to get to and from the hospital, and having somewhere with easy access for both staff, patients and visitors, along with room to expand is going to be top of the priority list. A helipad would probably be high on the list as well.
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But not for those who do not drive. It is all very well saying that a bus service will be provided, but if services are (say) every hour in the evening , which is probably optimistic, are scarcely helpful to these people if visiting. Apparently 77% of households have access to a car. that still leaves nearly a quarter of households who do not.
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For most people in Reading, the bus services aren't much off that at the moment. If I want to get to the RBH from my old or current address then it involves walking for at least 15 minutes as well as the bus journey on top, if it turns up. If you're unwell, disabled or visiting someone then that is not going to encourage you to make the journey.
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I can see both side of that argument. Yes I’d have to walk 15 mins to get there on one bus, or take two buses, or drive and hope to park, at it’s current location. Many staff have to,do the same and/or queue up for a permit which then deducts a percentage from their salary (fair enough).

An out of town purpose built with proper parking for all that need it and good transport links, is, I fear, but a dream. In a town with the layout and space restrictions we have, would be very lucky indeed to have land just outside the centre, available. Theale way maybe? Across the ‘top’ of the M4 where Ikea is and over to Arlington perhaps? Not much on the other side of town as all housing IIRC.

Townlands is tucked away in a small housing development. Unless you visited you wouldn’t know it was there. Small, a bit of parking, but is for ENT almost exclusively. The land demands for a fully blown NHS Trust Hospital, plus support functions and parking, willl be enormous I should imagine.
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Shinfield could be a possibility, or maybe on Green Park, just to the west of Kirtons Farm Road and to the south of the new station, maybe using the land just to the east of the road as part of the parking.

Easy access to the motorway network for both locations and GP is already on a couple of bus routes, so public transport box is ticked.
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I suppose one solution might be by the new green park station. That would provide , with tweeking of services, good transport links
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Fed-up wrote: 14 Feb 2022 13:27 The RBH is currently going through an exercise to redevelop the hospital to make sure that it is fit for purpose. This includes redeveloping the current hospital site, or moving to a new site.

Given that RBC have not exactly been enthusiastic about helping the RBC at their current location (surrounding it in pay and display roads and refusing permission for new car parks), I see that they do not want to see it move - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60375568

Personally, I think moving the RBH to a larger site on the edge of town is probably the best option for the hospital. The majority of patients require motorised transport to get to and from the hospital, and having somewhere with easy access for both staff, patients and visitors, along with room to expand is going to be top of the priority list. A helipad would probably be high on the list as well.
I will apologise in advance in case this may get taken in the wrong context – and to say I have been involved in a lot of the problems being caused in the area with parking etc, and why things happened so have a little knowledge on it

RBC are not responsible nor have anything to do with parking at RBH but there was provision put in by them to help out by having allocated staff spaces at Queens Rd carpark – which hardly anyone used! It didn’t help that RBH took away the minibus service to/from the carpark which meant anyone using it had to walk................I’ll come on to public parking a bit later!

Many years ago RBH built the MS carpark and at the time had planning to build a second one at the back (where the open staff one is now) but decided to use the funds elsewhere – no one seems to know where they went?
Years later they had the funds and thought they could just go ahead and build it, but as so long they had to re-apply for planning permission - that got refused as other places had been built and more residents in the area who were against it
So that didn’t happen but to make matters worse they: a. Stopped the shuttle bus that used to run from Green Park PnR – b. Built on a lot of the car parking areas c. Put parking charges up to stop town commuters using the carpark, but didn’t discount staff parking!
This meant many more driving to work, and all trying to park in residential streets
That led to many complaints from residents in the area and consultations on parking – the local businesses - resident’s / the University and RBC where all invited to comment / be involved but RBH didn’t bother (I was at most of the meetings on it)
The first proposal of residents parking was pushed back unto it was realise the majority of objections came for non-residents who worked at RBH, a second one went through and we all know the outcome
Since then RBH have made matters worse as still losing spaces withy extra buildings etc, and taking staff permits away to make public spaces making it even harder for anyone working there

And to rub salt into the wound – many years back RBH was offered land and funding from RBC to build NEW hospital over by Green Park (roughly where the private hospital / hotel is now) but they turned it down!
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Of course, The Battle Hospital should have been redeveloped.

On the outskirts of town seems to be the only solution now. I'm sure TP will want it on the 17 bus route though.
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Fed-up wrote: 14 Feb 2022 14:08 Shinfield could be a possibility, or maybe on Green Park, just to the west of Kirtons Farm Road and to the south of the new station, maybe using the land just to the east of the road as part of the parking.

Easy access to the motorway network for both locations and GP is already on a couple of bus routes, so public transport box is ticked.
Yep, not a bad shout actually. IIRC, the park and ride land (at least) was in private hands. Some more areas there are, or were, too as well I think. I remember someone at RFC trying to buy the land for development, and the owner steadfastly refusing. They may have subsequently sold the land for the P and R.

Likewise MJ - the train station would be an obvious asset to any hospital site over there too.
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IIRC the Green Park PnR shuttle bus was stopped because it was not used enough.

There is clearly a need for more facilities at the current location and they have limited space to provide that. If you expand the hospital, then the new facilities have to go somewhere and, unfortunately, car parks are an easy target.

The joke of the residents parking, is that you drive around there now and there are a lot of empty spaces. Before the new restrictions were brought in, the spaces were busy but with the limited time parking spaces soon appeared, and a traffic warden could easily keep people honest. I wonder what the income from those areas is now, compared to the cost of implementing it.

Parking charges are a necessary evil when everywhere else locally imposes a charge. Luckily there is a way to get the RBH fees waived in some circumstances.

When was the land offered to the RBH OM? Though I can see why they turned it down, given the size of that site. The RBH would require a large proportion of the Kennet Island site
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I read a few weeks ago that the site could be near the Uni science block along the new stretch of the Arborfield by-pass, has that idea now been abandoned?
Is the ultimate intention to totally vacate the London Rd site, or to keep that for some ‘specialist’ treatments…. Eg, it would be preferable to have A&E in the town centre I’d think, rather than out in the sticks? Especially with ‘iffy’ transport links.

And yes, I agree, it was very short-sighted to let Battle Hospital go.
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I understand that there is some kind of plan for a hub and spoke type of system, Pi. They have ENT at Townlands as it is. I wonder how much influence the current backlog of patients will have on any new build plans. Bear with me - if there are as it seems, unspecified millions on the waiting lists, would the NHS not outsourcing the low risk cases to private providers be a smart move?

The NHS is fined for exceeding waiting times. Therefore they want to avoid that. They could pay private providers to do the work and avoid the fines. Private providers already do hips, knees, cataracts etc, albeit with patients that are vetted and considered to be low risk (which is sensible, and focuses on patient safety).

If the private places are not rammed with elective surgeries (boobs, noses, Insurance jobs and those that choose to pay) why not use their facilities for more NHS work? The surgeons and Consultants are the very same people you see in the NHS and I know it works very well with hips knees etc. It’s a case of reaching a sensible cost structure. That would ease the waiting lists.

Diagnostics too can be outsourced. There is at least one ultra modern centre in Reading that could potentially take on NHS scanning and diagnostics - if the price was right.

Using creative solutions like this would help with routine cases and reduce the waiting times and/or bring down the waiting times for those most in need/more complex cases, without the enormous expense and time lag involved in building new facilities.

Battle Hospital was close to many peoples. Hearts, mine included, but it was past its best even 10 years before it closed. The cost of upgrading and continuing staffing it would have been astronomical I’m sure.
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THere is and has been some refurb going on already. Would be nice to have a new hospital, but I can’t see it happening TBH.
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AFAIK there is a covenant issue with the RBH land which makes selling the site extremely difficult if not impossible?
Battle was sold by the NHS (not by the council as some seem to believe) and some of the money went to the RBH.

There has been talk of a new hospital being built over at Shinfield -there is already a cancer hospital there on the Uni Science Park.
The film studios are also going there.
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Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 15:00 If the private places are not rammed with elective surgeries (boobs, noses, Insurance jobs and those that choose to pay) why not use their facilities for more NHS work? The surgeons and Consultants are the very same people you see in the NHS and I know it works very well with hips knees etc. It’s a case of reaching a sensible cost structure. That would ease the waiting lists.
Not just elective surgeries - when we in business had BUPA cover, it cost a lot! And both late OH and I used it - yes, to overcome the waiting times. Many people pay PMI for that very reason - so surely it’s rather unfair on them to use private hospitals because the NHS don’t get their ‘house in order’ - despite the £billions poured into it. In fact those with PMI also pay NI/Tax as well.
Yes, if there’s empty space available, but don’t push those who pay for both down the Waiting List in the process.
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When something goes wrong in the private hospitals the private patients go to NHS hospitals and their treatment is then free, even if it is because of faults at the private hospital. The training of nurses siphoned off by the private hospitals is usually done in NHS hospitals. Consultants often use their NHS work to recruit fodder for the private industry. When a person in an emergency is passed on to the NHS, the NHS does not say "there is no empty space available, so wait"
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piwacket wrote: 14 Feb 2022 16:37
Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 15:00 If the private places are not rammed with elective surgeries (boobs, noses, Insurance jobs and those that choose to pay) why not use their facilities for more NHS work? The surgeons and Consultants are the very same people you see in the NHS and I know it works very well with hips knees etc. It’s a case of reaching a sensible cost structure. That would ease the waiting lists.
Not just elective surgeries - when we in business had BUPA cover, it cost a lot! And both late OH and I used it - yes, to overcome the waiting times. Many people pay PMI for that very reason - so surely it’s rather unfair on them to use private hospitals because the NHS don’t get their ‘house in order’ -m despite the £billions poured into it. In fact those with PMI also pay NI/Tax as well.
Yes, if there’s empty space available, but don’t push those who pay for both down the Waiting List in the process.
Yes, no, sorry - I’m so used to distinguishing between the two. Of course I meant both. Elective to me is choice as opposed to Emergency, that’s what I’m used to. Apologies.

In my experience, private hospitals take on NHS work for two reasons - usually inter dependent. First reason is they are paid to do so. Second reason is they don’t have enough private patients. Any NHS patients seen at a private hospital are usually given dedicated theatre slots that private patients don’t use. So to optimise theatre utilisation (Consultant time, nurse time, decontaminating and kits etc all cost) they book in NHS patients into dedicated days, which have historically been
quieter for private patients. No private patient would expect 24/7 access to a procedure - all Private Consultants have to fulfil their NHS commitments first, so they don’t do private work every day, if you see what I mean.

In a private facility that has, say, 30 beds, all of those beds would be potentially allocated to NHS patients on specific days per week/month. Some will be day case, some overnight (most knees, although almost at day case now!) and some in and out like cataracts so they don’t need beds.

The hospitals agree targets, and like the NHS, are penalised if they don’t reach them. It’s all about reaching a balance between running theatres, hiring kit and rostering nursing staff, at an optimum level. If private hospitals can’t fill their wards every day with private patients, then they will want to take on NHS.

For example, Spire host West Berks Endoscopy services. You go to a private hospital on, say, a Saturday, and get seen. Otherwise you’d have to wait longer and Spire would more than likely close the hospital on a Saturday, as they had no private patients.

In a perfect world, NHS and Private Hospitals work in tandem to sort out NHS patients. That should never affect access to the services that fee paying patients have either insurance for, or paid for.
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mikejee wrote: 14 Feb 2022 16:48 Pi
When something goes wrong in the private hospitals the private patients go to NHS hospitals and their treatment is then free, even if it is because of faults at the private hospital. The training of nurses siphoned off by the private hospitals is usually done in NHS hospitals. Consultants often use their NHS work to recruit fodder for the private industry. When a person in an emergency is passed on to the NHS, the NHS does not say "there is no empty space available, so wait"
Erm, that’s not strictly correct IME, MJ. If you are a patient in a private hospital, paying or NHS, and something goes wrong, there is a Transfer Agreement in place with the local Trust, and you are blue lighted over to the Trust. Private hospitals are NOT suitable for emergency situations, and don’t try to be. It is a Regulatory requirement for all private hospitals to have Transfer Agreements in place. You are not charged for emergency NHS care. NHS care is and always has been, free at point of delivery for UK citizens.

Nurses are not siphoned off from the NHS. They tend to flow between the two, depending on where they are in their careeer path. For example, they may get to a level in the NHS and be blocked from rising as all places are filled, so they come to a smaller, private hospital, and go forward from there’s. Likewise I’ve known many nurses return to the NHS. There is no active recruitment drive to take NHS nurses. Some do it in addition to their NHS shifts. The last recruitment drive I was involved with, invited nurses from the Philippines to visit. The initial training of all nurses is done, these days, in a mix of uni and hospital settings - it doesn’t demark between NHS and Private. We have had trainees in private hospitals, new and those returning to the profession (one lady was over 59). Likewise private cancer facilities don’t symphon off nurses. What they choose to do of their own accord is up to them, you can’t force them to leave.

It is against The granting of Practicing Privilages, and reportable to the GMC, if a doctor or Consultant is found to be actively recruiting patients from the NHS to his private practice. It is taken very seriously and I know of at least one Consultant, world renown, that was severely reprimanded for doing so.

You are correct that the NHS doesn’t turn people away in an emergency - car crash or heart attack for instance. You’re seen in A and E. Lesser bumps and scrape some are triaged, then you might have a wait - in the Department or in the Ambo, depending.....
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Obviously you know far more knowledgeable than me about this, and I accept what you say. But it would seem you agree with me that (in my terms of reference) the private hospitals do "relatively easy" work, and anything else, which of necessity must be more expensive and use far more resources is by NHS. As to the consultants, I admit it was some time ago, like 40 years and in Leeds, but then recruiting definitely took place and I (or rather my ex wife and thus myself) was definitely a victim
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Well I’m sorry to hear that MJ. The Consultant was out of order. He’d have been given the bums rush from the places I’ve worked a st, no hanging about,

I did check on the BMA website about that https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-suppo ... e-practice. Subheading NHS patients bit.

If by relatively easy work, you mean patients who are risk assessed to be at lesser risk (generally they’re non smokers, non drinkers, not obese, don’t have underlying morbid conditions) of things going wrong, then yes we can agree. The reason they do this, is for safety. As I mentioned, private hospitals don’t have the capability to have an emergency response, hence the Transfer Agreement. Considering the hundreds of thousands waiting for knee and hip replacements, or cataracts, then there will be a reasonable proportion of ‘well’ patients, that they can take off the NHS list and get done. Private hospitals also do bariatric and paediatric surgery privately - both of which are higher risk. Lower risk doesn’t necessarily mean no risk -things do go wrong, as in any clinical setting.

If someone is fat, smokes like a chimney and knocks back the vodka then they will probably already be costing the NHS more! ITs not about money, it’s about safety. People who are more at risk go to the NHS. The more risk the more it takes to look after them. If the NHS isn’t doing 10 ‘easy’ cases, they can do say three or four more complex ones, because there’s room to do that. Otherwise they’d have the 10 easy ones as well as the three or four more difficult ones to do, and that WILL take up more resources. Does that make sense?
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When I had problems during my recovery from a RTC, I asked the consultant who was looking after me if I was better going private to have the complications dealt with quicker, and he said an emphatic NO, even though he did a lot of private work in that area. He said that for emergency treatments and recoveries, the NHS to always the best route to go.
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Yep, he is absolutely right, Fed-up. There is a wider pool of expertise and clinical support in the NHS.
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Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 17:25 If someone is fat, smokes like a chimney and knocks back the vodka then they will probably already be costing the NHS more! ITs not about money, it’s about safety. People who are more at risk go to the NHS. The more risk the more it takes to look after them. If the NHS isn’t doing 10 ‘easy’ cases, they can do say three or four more complex ones, because there’s room to do that. Otherwise they’d have the 10 easy ones as well as the three or four more difficult ones to do, and that WILL take up more resources. Does that make sense?
I would not argue with anything you have said VoT. As I said, It was 40 years ago. But am concerned by what seems to be pi's implication that private hospitals can send any problem patients to NHS immediately, but only help the NHS if convenient
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I agree with all of you the land on the other side of the platforms to the business park at reading green park is perfect, this is obviously not sim city but a compulsory purchase of the site would give enough space for a almost resort/campus size hospital with lake views, room for a helipad etc great connections west and east with parking for all, with the improvements to anpr, people who who have business at the hospital, visitors staff and patients would be very easily managed.

also a slip road could be built from the M4 for ambulance access via the service stations site.

this would also encourage the 3rd bridge objectors to change minds as north reading people will want to be able to enjoy the improvements aswell

the quality of experience for everyone would improve with staff and everyone else knowing they could just turn up at work or for treatment without the hassle leaving only readings abysmal unsolvable traffic peaks

the existing site could be developed with a school plus very large gp centre to replace all the ones in walking distance to the tc.

the existing carpark would be for residents allowing the site to be filled with high density multifloor terraced family homes allowing a traffic free enviroment and gardens with the all the benefits of being a walk or very short bus ride from town.

another option is that rbc is allow/force lol a larger mega carkpark similar to the one that was not allowed but bigger on the existing site..



does this project have a name attached that can be reached on say twitter?
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mikejee wrote: 14 Feb 2022 18:45
Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 17:25 If someone is fat, smokes like a chimney and knocks back the vodka then they will probably already be costing the NHS more! ITs not about money, it’s about safety. People who are more at risk go to the NHS. The more risk the more it takes to look after them. If the NHS isn’t doing 10 ‘easy’ cases, they can do say three or four more complex ones, because there’s room to do that. Otherwise they’d have the 10 easy ones as well as the three or four more difficult ones to do, and that WILL take up more resources. Does that make sense?
I would not argue with anything you have said VoT. As I said, It was 40 years ago. But am concerned by what seems to be pi's implication that private hospitals can send any problem patients to NHS immediately, but only help the NHS if convenient
Ah, I see. To get into a hospital for planned treatment - other than the ER which is emergency treatment - you usually have to be referred by a GP, Consultant or Specialist. You can’t self refer - if you’re insured, the insurer will always want to see the referral anyway. The clinician referring you, will already have to some greater extent, risk assessed you/considered your suitability for private treatment. Most are au fair with the general admission criteria in private hospital (not least because many of them have private practices as well).

As soon as you contact the private provider, either the med sec or specialist/consultant youhave been referred to, will risk assess you via your PMH, questions and/or already be aware of the admission criteria for that private provider (e.g. they won’t see anyone for bariatric surgery who exceeds, say 20 stones, or for vascular surgery is a smoker).

If you don’t fit the private criteria, not only can they not help you (safely) they will also be in breach of their NHS contract if they are working under one (e.g. knee replacement) and liable for a fine if they did that. That fine can run into thousands. Per breach. The NHS sets the criteria AND the number of patients allocated for each procedure. Private hospitals are audited on their admissions and outcomes for NHS work, so the NHS will know.

To my knowledge, no private hospital is legally able to send a new patient that has come to them, directly into the NHS, and that patient be given preferential treatment - jump the queue in effect. If you don’t fit the criteria, you have to go back to your GP and start again.

If you meant instead that if a problem occurs with a patient either during or after treatment, that they can immediately transfer them to their NHS Trust, then yes they can. If a patient suddenly deteriorates, private hospitals don’t (generally) have ICU/HDU facilities and/or multiple theatres staffed 24/7, which is why they send patients to Trusts if there are problems during their care, so that they can be looked after by specialists with specialist equipment. The aim of admission criteria is to minimise the risk to the patient in the first place and ensure that their treatment takes place in the most appropriate place.

I’ve known of scenarios where private providers have, on more than one occasion, offered to assist the NHS with particular procedures, such as hips and knees or cataracts over the winter to help with the winter surges, and that approach has not even been acknowledged, let alone considered. It’s not a case of convenience, it’s about capacity and where is the safest place for the people to be treated.
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mikejee wrote: 14 Feb 2022 18:45 But am concerned by what seems to be pi's implication that private hospitals can send any problem patients to NHS immediately, but only help the NHS if convenient
I don’t recollect saying or inferring that?
What I said was that I thought it would be unfair to those paying PMI be put further down the list because the Private hospital was full of NHS patients because the NHS hospital had a shortage of beds. But I accept that if the private hospital has spare capacity - by all means offer the accommodation, that’s only right, and if it’s a field of treatment they can handle.
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I realise you were not meaning that to happen, but my point was that when patients have to be transferred to NHS hospitals , then presumably NHS patients are pushed down the list. Surely there should be a balance between the two and not just "we have some space so we will let NHS patients in "
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mikejee wrote: 14 Feb 2022 20:10 I realise you were not meaning that to happen, but my point was that when patients have to be transferred to NHS hospitals , then presumably NHS patients are pushed down the list. Surely there should be a balance between the two and not just "we have some space so we will let NHS patients in "
Maybe VoT can answer that? It seems that there is some ‘transfer’ or accommodation system in place
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piwacket wrote: 14 Feb 2022 20:23
mikejee wrote: 14 Feb 2022 20:10 I realise you were not meaning that to happen, but my point was that when patients have to be transferred to NHS hospitals , then presumably NHS patients are pushed down the list. Surely there should be a balance between the two and not just "we have some space so we will let NHS patients in "
Maybe VoT can answer that? It seems that there is some ‘transfer’ or accommodation system in place
Usually, the only time Patients are transferred to NHS hospitals, is in an emergency. They are transferred for treatment, not accommodation reasons. This is why they go under Blue Light this might be for reasons such as If something had gone wrong during the operation (an unexpected occurrence), or if there was a sepsis situation for example, then they would go into special care in the NHS. Much the same way as an accident victim would - they don’t jump the queue either, it’s on clinical need. I’ve known of probably two or three emergency transfers over 15 years.

There may be occasions when patients are transferred from private hospitals after their op, on a planned basis, and go to places such as nursing homes, for follow on medical rather than clinical care, but some private hospitals have those facilities too. Often in the same hospital but on a different floor.

IIRC RBH has something like 40 high dependency beds. The last time I heard, about two months ago, only five of those were occupied. They are unlikely to be overrun by a single event - they practice Disasters like bombs and plane crashes to test their readiness - and of course there’s Frimley and Slough as well.

It’s not a case of letting some NHS in as and when they want to or can. The NHS patients are taken into private hospitals for specific procedures, in specific numbers on specific occasions - on a Contract basis - Say it was every Tuesday and Saturday. If for some reason, the NHS patients don’t fill all the slots available on those two days, then the Theatre or Wards Manager in conjunction with the Head of the Hospital, would look to see if any private patients requiring the same op, could be invited to take up any remaining slots.
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Thanks VoT :)
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Fed-up wrote: 14 Feb 2022 17:29 When I had problems during my recovery from a RTC, I asked the consultant who was looking after me if I was better going private to have the complications dealt with quicker, and he said an emphatic NO, even though he did a lot of private work in that area. He said that for emergency treatments and recoveries, the NHS to always the best route to go.
A surgeon friend of my sister could retire, or at least semi retire - when it was suggested he give up his NHS work he said, no, he’d rather give up the private work. The NHS work was far more interesting…
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@ Fed-Up – TBH I can’t remember when the land was offered as so long ago, well before the hotel / private hospital was built as it was all open back then, don’t think Kennet Island was even built at the time hence a lot of land that could have been used – must be a good 20yrs or so
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So RBC want any new hospital centrally.

What are the options?
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If you read the GR report RBC say they won’t support a move if its ‘outside’ of Reading such as in Wokingham as in one proposal – which is understandable as it would then come under WBC

It also states in the report -
Reading's Local Plan Policy states: "Any long-term proposal for moving the hospital to a new site in the Reading area would be supported where it would ensure that such a move would enhance its accessibility to residents of Reading and the rest of its catchment, would not lead to a reduction in standards of care, and where it would comply with other policies in the Plan.”
Nowhere does it mention being ‘central’ just that it should be in the "heart of the community" i.e. Reading
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