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The Alledged regularly goes to the one over near Asda Lower Earley. They have family and kiddie swims and lessons too he says. He books on line and has never had a problem. 45 minutes per booking for adult swims.
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bert wrote: 11 Feb 2022 12:29 Thanks Pi - Loddon Valley is decent (at least the website works too!) and we sometimes go there. Tt can take a while to get over there on a Saturday if traffic is bad, but needs must. I hadn't thought of Bulmershe. Their website doesn't seem to have a pool timetable at the moment, but I'll check back later or give them a call.
There’s this https://www.activeintime.com/en-gb/embe ... height=350
Presumably you put the date you want into the calendar.
Voiceoftreason? wrote: 11 Feb 2022 12:33 The Alledged regularly goes to the one over near Asda Lower Earley. They have family and kiddie swims and lessons too he says. He books on line and has never had a problem. 45 minutes per booking for adult swims.
That’ll be the Loddon Valley one.
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There's also a pool at South Reading Leisure Centre
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There are also swimming pools at the David Lloyd centre (at Thames Valley Park), at Nirvana (in Winnersh), and at the Thames Lido (on King's Meadow). There is even one on Friar Street if you know where to look (in the basement of the Novotel).
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chris_j_wood wrote: 11 Feb 2022 15:12 There are also swimming pools at the David Lloyd centre (at Thames Valley Park), at Nirvana (in Winnersh), and at the Thames Lido (on King's Meadow). There is even one on Friar Street if you know where to look (in the basement of the Novotel).
And the Voco (REading Football Stadium) and isn’t there still one at the hotel on Caversham Bridge? Does Meadway still have a pool? Not sure if the Hilton on Rose Kiln Lane does either.

Edit. Looks like Meadway still has its frog pond. Ahem, I mean pool https://www.better.org.uk/leisure-centr ... facilities
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Pools do take up a reasonable plot of land.
The sensible thing would be in a non visually attractive industrial area (within reason) as few people want to look out of a swimming pool anyway.
a second storey could be for other physical activity.

a 50M pool isn't that much more than a 25 although I believe the figures relate to the pool size, not the building that houses it.

I always thought that building on Palmer Park was daft - better to build by the UTC and share the pool usage
Ditto Rivermead, why not keep open space and develop/redevelop on the other side of the road?

There was talk of a pool at the University but that has disappeared into the void. I think the tennis dome may have eaten the land?
It was due to be near SportsPark.
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The way the pool world seems to be going is into specialisation, with luxury spas like Nirvana or Thames Lido at one end of the business. There is also a developing trend for specialist swimming centres for kids, although that seems to have started in the north and not reached these parts yet. My god-daughter's husband, who was himself a Welsh national swimmer, has just started a new job running a branch of Swim! in Mansfield. Swim! is a company created by Olympian Steve Parry which runs pools specifically for 0-11 year olds and now has several centres. It cannot be long before they or one of their competitors move into Reading.

Given that, maybe Reading Borough are (deliberately or accidentally) following a sensible approach in reducing council run pool provision and leaving it to private enterprise.
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I must say that, though I agree that learning to swim is a very useful asset in life (I admit ~I cannot, despite being brought up 7 miles from the sea) and
that councils should ensure that facilities are provided, I can see no need for flumes and the like to take money away from other provisions thta tbhe council has to enable while money for them is so tight. They can easily be provided by private companies, tho ugh these companies should not be enabled to grab and eat away open space, parkland and countryside under the pretence of providing a service
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bert wrote: 11 Feb 2022 11:14
dave m wrote: 11 Feb 2022 10:52 50M pools are not common.
I think that's a reason why it would have been nice though - it could have been a bit of a beacon for events and serious swimmers, and offered increased capacity for the town too. I imagine it wasn't done because of costs (as oppose to lack of ambition)...but as they were starting from a relatively blank slate, it feels a shame the money couldn't be found.
Absolutely agree there Bert. There are around Sixty 50m pools in the UK. High Wycombe has one.

It's a shame we have a council with lack of ambition.
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piwacket wrote: 11 Feb 2022 12:46 There’s this https://www.activeintime.com/en-gb/embe ... height=350
Presumably you put the date you want into the calendar.
Super, thanks piwacket.

Thanks all for the other suggestions too. Most of the private ones are either too expensive or are not really suitable for my loud and splashy offspring, but between South Reading, Bulmershe, Meadway and Loddon Valley, there are some options at least.
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It’s a pool, Bert, and kids are meant to be loud and splashy!
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You can find the Bulmershe Pool timetable near the bottom of the page at https://www.placesleisure.org/centres/b ... re-centre/. It tells you how many spaces are left in each session and a link to book.
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Cllr Jason Brock says he can't recall the council ever saying the new pools would be open to the public by 2019. Yes, he said 2019, even though I said 2020.

LOL. This. Is. The. Leader. Of. The. Council.
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dave m wrote: 11 Feb 2022 15:20 ..............................
I always thought that building on Palmer Park was daft - better to build by the UTC and share the pool usage
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It was considered many years ago but the old problems of that land came up

Its all ‘boggy’ and worse when it rains - there used to be a stream running diagonally across which is the overflow from Whiteknights lake and it went underground in the far corner where the primary school is now – which was a brickworks back then
It then flows under Palmer Park and on across to flow out into the Thames
It got covered over years later

Where UTC is (old Sutton Boys etc) and the primary school is solid ground, but the rest of the field is very soft with no underground support - some believe the ‘river’ leaks underground and I wouldn’t be surprised at that
They recently built an extension of the primary school onto the land and that is basically on a float foundation as the ground is too soft to take piles etc - and can’t go any bigger / higher

So the idea of a pool with associated building got ruled out, and why it was later decided to build in Palmer Park – mind you that was about 20yrs ago
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I had an excellent idea. Build a 50m pool on the Rivermead site and give Arthur Hill pool a huge overhaul.
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50m pools are OK but some councils like ours vetoed them when building new ones as they feared that professional swimmers would be training in them when the idea was really for just recreational swimmers to enjoy them.

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windrush wrote: 14 Feb 2022 13:36 50m pools are OK but some councils like ours vetoed them when building new ones as they feared that professional swimmers would be training in them when the idea was really for just recreational swimmers to enjoy them.

Pete.
Reading swimming club train early mornings, or at least they did in my day. Seeing as the council stopped the free off-peak swimming sessions for the over 65's, will there be anyone using these facilities at 6am?

It would have been great to have a 50m pool. Aspire athletes and have swimming competitions. But I know, in general Labour are against this sort of 'elitism'.
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I’d like to see an over 65 professional swimmer. :roflol3:
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Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 14:25 I’d like to see an over 65 professional swimmer. :roflol3:
Hey cheeky, I can do a very fast depth. :wink:

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windrush wrote: 14 Feb 2022 18:40
Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 14:25 I’d like to see an over 65 professional swimmer. :roflol3:
Hey cheeky, I can do a very fast depth. :wink:

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Voiceoftreason? wrote: 14 Feb 2022 14:25 I’d like to see an over 65 professional swimmer. :roflol3:

David Wilkie - aged 67.
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He's no longer a professional swimmer though. He is now a businessman according to Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wilkie_(swimmer)
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In fact, Wilkie was never a professional swimmer.
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I suppose the question of 50m pools is how many would actually use them – if demand was there I guess there would be more of them by now but I guess most swimmers are casual and not budding Olympians

Its like Velodromes – Reading has one of the 28 in the UK (and only 6 of those are indoor) so about half the number of 50M pools, and yet cycling is supposed to be such a big thing
So why aren’t people screaming out for more of them?
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There's around 60 x 50m pools in the UK.

A place the size of Reading won't have one though. Wycombe does.
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And you had already said that!
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For competitive cycling you do not need a velodrome.

For competitive swimming, unless part of another sport (e.g. triathlon), you tend to need a swimming pool.
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there are actually 40 50m pools listed on wiki, with Olympic pools listed separately (about 10)
it does also list some scheduled to be built.

However it still stands that 50m pools are not that common and logic says that building one close to another would merely reduce footfall in the existing one to some extent.

Not many competitive swimming events require a 50M pool
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10 Olympic pools
2 currently under construction.
40 x 50m pools
4 currently under construction

= 56. That'll be 56 once they're all done.
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Fed-up wrote: 15 Feb 2022 12:50 For competitive cycling you do not need a velodrome.

For competitive swimming, unless part of another sport (e.g. triathlon), you tend to need a swimming pool.
True, but it does depend on the type of cycling event – I have a few friends that compete but never cycle on roads

And in the same breath - you can swim in other places!
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OLDMAN wrote: 15 Feb 2022 13:58
Fed-up wrote: 15 Feb 2022 12:50 For competitive cycling you do not need a velodrome.

For competitive swimming, unless part of another sport (e.g. triathlon), you tend to need a swimming pool.

And in the same breath - you can swim in other places!
yes, in Reading you've got the choice of the Thames or the Kennet.
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ChipbuttyG wrote: 16 Feb 2022 08:42
OLDMAN wrote: 15 Feb 2022 13:58
Fed-up wrote: 15 Feb 2022 12:50 For competitive cycling you do not need a velodrome.

For competitive swimming, unless part of another sport (e.g. triathlon), you tend to need a swimming pool.

And in the same breath - you can swim in other places!
yes, in Reading you've got the choice of the Thames or the Kennet.
Plus other rivers and a few lakes!

Ever heard of Wild Swimming?
https://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/f ... g-18769996
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OLDMAN wrote: 16 Feb 2022 13:01
ChipbuttyG wrote: 16 Feb 2022 08:42
OLDMAN wrote: 15 Feb 2022 13:58


And in the same breath - you can swim in other places!
yes, in Reading you've got the choice of the Thames or the Kennet.
Plus other rivers and a few lakes!

Ever heard of Wild Swimming?
https://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/f ... g-18769996
Think the waterski club over off the back of Burghdield Road area does that as an organised activity. My old noggin seems to remember you used to be able to do wild swimming at the lake hotel - the one that partly burned down? Don’t even know if it’s still going.
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OLDMAN wrote: 16 Feb 2022 13:01
ChipbuttyG wrote: 16 Feb 2022 08:42
OLDMAN wrote: 15 Feb 2022 13:58


And in the same breath - you can swim in other places!
yes, in Reading you've got the choice of the Thames or the Kennet.
Plus other rivers and a few lakes!

Ever heard of Wild Swimming?
https://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/f ... g-18769996
I have. That's been the residents of east Reading only option for the past 6 years and counting....
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